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Postby RifleFire » Wed Nov 20, 2002 1:25 am

Greets People,
Which is your favorite Scifi Series and why? I have a distinct love for Star Trek. Its more like the way real science seems to be going. Star Wars is more eye candy and fantasy based than star trek. Of course they are both Fantasy based but IMHO, star trek is more real. Do you folks disagree?
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Postby feisty_redhead » Wed Nov 20, 2002 3:12 am

Personally, I liked Farscape best! <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Postby RifleFire » Wed Nov 20, 2002 7:43 am

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Personally, I liked Farscape best! <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Yeah it was so cool too. Star Trek edges it out just a tad IMHO. Still farscape was great for tv with the creatures. All star trek seems to be able to do is forehead bumps. <grin> The farscape storylines were excellent as well. Its sad that it was cancelled.
What was your favorite farscape episode? <Describe it please as i am terriable with names and couldnt associate episode names with plots to save my life. <grin>>
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Postby feisty_redhead » Thu Nov 21, 2002 12:59 am

It's been a while. I tend to prefer the episodes that were more geared towards humor though. They were a nice break.
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Postby Anakin » Tue Jan 21, 2003 4:34 pm

A guy wanders off for a while and Miss Feisty is a FORUM OP?? <img src=pix/icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle> Well hey there girly! Finally got a pc at the house and thought to check out some old stomping grounds.

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On the subject of the discussion: Trek ~vs~ Wars

To me its an 'apples and oranges' sort of thing. Either has its nice things...especially now that Lucas has got the 'prequel' films under way!

On Trek, I've always appreciated the 'realness' of the science they try to write into the stories, but in either series you start with the basic supposition that "OK, this isn't real, but if it WAS...what would happen if THIS were to occur?" And you take the story from there!
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Postby Aardvark » Tue Jan 21, 2003 7:34 pm

I think Star Trek makes for better tv series but Star Wars makes for a better cinema experience...What I watched of Farscape I liked...though I always prefered Babylon 5
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Postby feisty_redhead » Tue Jan 21, 2003 11:50 pm

Welcome Back Anakin. <img src=pix/icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

Farscape RULES! Just watched the first episode of the new (and possibly last) season. It's still as good as it always was to me.
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Postby DrWho » Wed Jan 22, 2003 1:46 pm

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<b>RifleFire wrote:</b>
Greets People,
Which is your favorite Scifi Series and why? I have a distinct love for Star Trek. Its more like the way real science seems to be going. Star Wars is more eye candy and fantasy based than star trek. Of course they are both Fantasy based but IMHO, star trek is more real. Do you folks disagree?
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well between the two starwas is following things more science wise after all we have computers and robots in factories <they have droids> the second movie <if you count them in order> involves the begining of the clone wars , we are just now working with clones and thats scaring people cause they can be grown and harvested for parts , armies you name it. star trek is alittle but to optimistic i dont see man as a race becoming benevolent as a whle with only a few bad seeds, i dunno thats how i see it
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Postby DrWho » Wed Jan 22, 2003 1:47 pm

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<b>feisty_redhead wrote:</b>
Personally, I liked Farscape best! <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Farscape is good i liked all the sci-fi shows when i was able to see them. first wave farscape babylon 5 <sigh>
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Postby DrWho » Wed Jan 22, 2003 1:50 pm

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<b>Anakin wrote:</b>
A guy wanders off for a while and Miss Feisty is a FORUM OP?? <img src=pix/icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle> Well hey there girly! Finally got a pc at the house and thought to check out some old stomping grounds.

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On the subject of the discussion: Trek ~vs~ Wars

To me its an 'apples and oranges' sort of thing. Either has its nice things...especially now that Lucas has got the 'prequel' films under way!

On Trek, I've always appreciated the 'realness' of the science they try to write into the stories, but in either series you start with the basic supposition that "OK, this isn't real, but if it WAS...what would happen if THIS were to occur?" And you take the story from there!
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you would be supprised , there are actual college classes where the physics of these shows and movies are discussed and analized as future tech thats totaly viable
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Postby DrWho » Wed Jan 22, 2003 1:54 pm

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<b>Aardvark wrote:</b>
I think Star Trek makes for better tv series but Star Wars makes for a better cinema experience...What I watched of Farscape I liked...though I always prefered Babylon 5

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well depends on which star trek series we are talkin about hehehe some were much better or more real than others at least in the way the characters were developed
i loved the first star trek, was dissapointed with next gen , was a great show but they left so much unanswered in my book, DS9 was awesome very tension filled and i was not pleased with voyager again characters were left to their own devices other than janeway, and im really into enterprise i know its weird but its cool watching them get through life being the underdogs, the new kids on the block without any of their tech or the rules that the other shows are bound to its like a cowboy movie about the wild west only in space hehehee
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Postby Aardvark » Wed Jan 22, 2003 4:53 pm

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<b>Aardvark wrote:</b>
I think Star Trek makes for better tv series but Star Wars makes for a better cinema experience...What I watched of Farscape I liked...though I always prefered Babylon 5

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well depends on which star trek series we are talkin about hehehe some were much better or more real than others at least in the way the characters were developed
i loved the first star trek, was dissapointed with next gen , was a great show but they left so much unanswered in my book, DS9 was awesome very tension filled and i was not pleased with voyager again characters were left to their own devices other than janeway, and im really into enterprise i know its weird but its cool watching them get through life being the underdogs, the new kids on the block without any of their tech or the rules that the other shows are bound to its like a cowboy movie about the wild west only in space hehehee
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Basically I agree except with the Next Generation. I felt there was a lot of character developement. In fact, the writers made it practice to have one episode per season for each of the bridge crew. True, some characters like Jordy, and Rieker, and Troy just didn't have enough going on to have hugh developement, but I loved the developement of Data and Worf as they deal with being foreigners in a human enviorments.
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Postby DrWho » Thu Jan 23, 2003 4:29 pm

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<b>DrWho wrote:</b>
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<b>Aardvark wrote:</b>
I think Star Trek makes for better tv series but Star Wars makes for a better cinema experience...What I watched of Farscape I liked...though I always prefered Babylon 5

<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></font id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

well depends on which star trek series we are talkin about hehehe some were much better or more real than others at least in the way the characters were developed
i loved the first star trek, was dissapointed with next gen , was a great show but they left so much unanswered in my book, DS9 was awesome very tension filled and i was not pleased with voyager again characters were left to their own devices other than janeway, and im really into enterprise i know its weird but its cool watching them get through life being the underdogs, the new kids on the block without any of their tech or the rules that the other shows are bound to its like a cowboy movie about the wild west only in space hehehee
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Basically I agree except with the Next Generation. I felt there was a lot of character developement. In fact, the writers made it practice to have one episode per season for each of the bridge crew. True, some characters like Jordy, and Rieker, and Troy just didn't have enough going on to have hugh developement, but I loved the developement of Data and Worf as they deal with being foreigners in a human enviorments.
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Well thats pretty much what i mean thats why people love picard, data and worf they really fleshed out those characters but troy ... well we never really got to see what she was made of oh shure they showed her mom was a pain in her ass and that she had a tendancy to fall in love with aliens lol but they dident do much to make us really bond with her and riker ... well i used to call him Kirk's libido and that went down the tubes in the 3rd season pretty much and as for jordy ... he was the least developed of the characters he was a love sick virgin with no flair hell when Mr.Scott was on the show he even told him how are you gonna be a mirical worker if you tell the captain how long it really takes you to fix things heheh
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Postby Crimson Rose » Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:49 am

Jordy= Geordi
Troy=Troi
Reiker= Riker.

Enterprise is the abonimation show. It completely FUCKS UP the chronology and everything. It's why no-one is watching it. Nemesis was a dissapointment, because it upset received thought on the creation of the Romulan people. A great history (and one I've always held to) is in the book "The Romulan Way." First Contact helped to screw things up, because Cochrane appeared in the Classic Trek. And he looked NOTHING like James Cromwell.

Star Wars has its flaws as well. When Obi-Wan met Anakin, he was already grown up, and the best star pilot in the galaxy. Unless he was lying... Also, the prequals are tearing into shreds the book series.

Babylon 5 was original, AND consistent. The pilot had a couple of small differences, but that's about it.

Dark Angel is one no-one's yet mentioned, which is interesting...
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Postby DonKeehotay » Wed Sep 22, 2004 9:00 pm

I don't really have a favorite. I watched Star Trek: TOS when I was a kid, but it looks really cheesy now. Most science-fiction TV shows I've seen seem to operate on the premise that if they give you lots of eye candy, they don't have to provide things like believable dialogue or a plot that makes sense.
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Postby mindless » Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:20 pm

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Series or parallel?

Postby scootwhoman » Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:19 am

For starters, I think that it is a bit of a mis-nomer to call Star Wars a 'series', as that implies a television production with weekly installments. Also, because of the amount of money spent on Star Wars episodes, they have lots more tech, space battles, etc. Star Trek: The Next Generation was spending around 750,000 dollars an episode, which is insane as that figure could never be recouped during a normal series offering. But Rodenberry knew that he could sell TNG straight into syndication, which made it possible turn a profit on such expensive episodes.

I think that Star Trek introduced a lot of people to science fiction, and broke the ground that Star Wars cultivated years later. Remember, when Star Trek started, 2001: A Space Odyssey had not yet been released, nor had Silent Running, or any of the 'modern' sci-fi films. Star Trek was one of the first productions to look at aliens as anything except bloodthirsty invaders or conquerers, portraying a future where people could usually get along with each other, except for the unsocial Klingons and Romulans. Star Trek was about exploration, expanding knowledge, and facing the unknown. Star Wars is about lust for power and tyranny.

I think that both Star Trek and Star Wars were huge cultural icons, as well as major turning points in their respective genres. I don't think that they can be compared very well, due to the fundamental differences in their mediums.
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