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Postby Ed Sysop » Sat Oct 14, 2000 8:24 pm

theproffet
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Femme, but that's not a great challenge. Ah, if someone peruses this page, and
likes a spirited debate, I love Wolfe, LeGuin, and Leiber. Most of what passes
for SF lately sucks, with the noble exception of Howard Waldrop and Greg Egan.
Maybe I should just rake Heinlen over the coals to raise a stink . . ."The Number
of the Beast," or whatever he wrote in '83, uuurrrghhh! (Sorry Ed, I'd love to
see some action here--is it a real pain to moderate? I'm just trying to drop in
topics from time to time, and snare some folks. Eventually, I'll raise a topic no
one can dismiss--unless sex surpasses SF as a topic!)
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Re: Maybe I can get more posts here than on Scrictly

The action comes and goes in various forums. It'd be nice to have some activity
over here. Email me if you want more info.
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Re: Maybe I can get more posts here than on Scrictly

Well, why don't you try raking RAH over the coals and we can have at it?
heheee

But, why separate sex and sf? Haven't you ever actually read Heinlein?
hmmmm? He has extremely interesting ideas on sex and monogomy (or lack
thereof) and heterosexuality (and lack thereof). Not to mention his ideas on
religion and politics. Or, prejudice.

Deb
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Sorry: I kinda thought RAH was passe'

I guess I came of age in the era of Harlan and Ursula--the Heinlen I've read
involves a lot of patriarchy and machismo. Oh yeah, I never felt that he could
adapt to a more literate and stylish perspective. Sorry, but I guess taste is
relative--but I really relished women entering the field, and think that LeGuin
skewed things a lot more than she gets credits for.

That's who I am, Please understand, I want to be your Holy man . . .
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Re: Sorry: I kinda thought RAH was passe'

Prof,

All of RAH"s women were strong and intelligent. Not exactly into listening to
daddy or hubby

Deb
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Re: Sorry: I kinda thought RAH was passe'

Well, Prof...I think Heinlen's books are pretty good. I mean, what do ya want
from an author, perfection? His books keep you interested. Can't beat plucking
gray hairs from down under.

My favorite book of Heinlen's that I have read is A Comedy of Justice. I didn't
like the ending a lot though. Kinda
weird and dissapointing.

I will have to look into the authors you mentioned Prof. I have never read
anything by them. But I do think that
if you read some of Robert Jordan's and Terry Brook's stuff, you'd change your
mind about Sci-Fi today.

Be Forever

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of our minds, Looking back to our birth, forward to our demise" "If there were no angels,
would there be no sin?" "Do not suffer through the game of chance that plays; always
doors to lock away your dreams."
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JOB - A Comedy of Justice

Seryn,

That's one of my favorite books. It's got meaning on so many levels!
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I'm willing to take suggestions . . .

Just pretend I haven't read anything by RAH: what would be your most
recommended work? There's a lot of his later work that I know next to nothing
about, reading a lot of Gibson and Sterling in those years. Is the later version of
SiaSL better?


"shining flying purple wolfhound, show me where you are"
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Do you mean "Sword of Shanara?"

*urrp!* Sorry, but Terry Brooks is one of those newer fantasy writers I don't
think I could abide. But if you've never read LeGuin's The Left Hand of Darkness,
you're in for a rather challenging treat. I first read it in a SF college course, and
having a sounding board for the ideas and symbolism was enlightening. Will your
college have a course in SF, and do you know what would be on the syllabus?



"shining flying purple wolfhound, show me where you are"
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Heinlein

Seryn,

On sex, politics, religion - Stranger in a Strange Land. The unexpurgated version
isn't later, just sans censorship.

On prejudice and racism - Farnham's Freehold

On life in general and various types of marriage customs - all the Lazarus
Long/Mamma Maureen books. Technically Lazarus starts in Methuselah's
Children, but most of the ideas are in Time Enough for Love and To Sail Beyond
the Sunset.

On TANSTAAFL (there ain't no such thing as a free lunch) - Moon is a Harsh
Mistress

Just for fun - Waldo and Magic Incorporated
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Re: Heinlein

Whoops - sorry. That should have been to Prof. (don't want Ed editing my dumb
mistakes anymore!)
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Postby Conundrum » Mon Oct 16, 2000 12:39 pm

Ok, to start with -- Hi, y'all, it's good to be back. For however long
I stay, anyway; while I hate and despise Ezboard's interface, I figured I'd give the new one a try and see if I liked it any better.


Now, to follow the topics:


Heinlien: Best work? Probably <i>The Moon is a Harsh Mistress</i>. Other really good ones included <i>Double Star</i> and lots and lots of his short stories.

Now, in terms of authors still alive who, well, Don't Suck, for fantasy, I prefer Patricia McKillip, John M. Ford, Emma Bull Steven Brust, Tim Powers (when he's on, anyways) and Patricia C. Wrede (ok, and a few others I can't remember at the moment), while for Science Fiction I'm fond of Lois M. Bujold, Vernor Vinge, Stephenson, Ford (again), and, well, again, others I can't remember.



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Postby Ed Sysop » Sun Oct 29, 2000 9:57 pm

Hey Josh,

Nice to see you again.

Hope you enjoy the new software, we're working on tweaking it so that it's exactly the right thing for everyone.

Still playing the harp?
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